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Comment on Back from GA by John Brown

John Brown — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:07:18 +0000

Check out my comments in your mother’s day 2007 sermon where you talked about bible inerrancy, etc.

I want to know your heart more than I want to argue with you. I want to know how you arrived at your current destination. And I want to know why you invested so much time in education if your heart was moving this direction from the start. I would have thought a person with your convictions would have spent more time in philosophy instead of forcing yourself to learn the theological bull-shnake that you learned under another traditional theological institution.

Comment on Victims of Identity by Andy

Andy — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:04:32 +0000

I hear you struggling with your feelings about homosexuality, and I hope you’re able to find some peace there. I would respond in more detail if you would let me know who you are. However, it cost me a great deal to move from Christianity to UUism where I can minister with integrity. I did so publicly, without hiding. More than one person has felt comfortable arguing with me while hiding behind false identities or sending me anonymous messages and letters. I won’t accept that.
I would be happy to discuss this issue with you on my blog, but I won’t do so with a ‘drive-by blogger.’ Have enough personal integrity to at least let me know privately who you are.

Comment on The Bible: Handed from Heaven or Penned by People? by John Brown

John Brown — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:02:54 +0000

There you go again. The bible is just another book. It has the same weight as a book by Danielle Steele or any other popular writer. The difference in the books comes through the eyes of the reader. One reads Danielle Steele’s books with a desire to let their minds wander through the pages of fiction. On reads the bible through the eyes of a person who is either inherently good or inherently bad determined to better their situation in this world. I don’t think anyone reading YOUR blogs would fall in the literal camp, do you? Those people were turned off by your verbage and views long ago. Those people reading your blogs are interested in finding or at least making sense of the truth. If a person were to read your blogs they would have a particularly different view of truth than a bible-thumping literal bible reader. It’s just another book. It isn’t holier than any other book I have on my shelf. It isn’t sacred. It isn’t the words of Christ. It is a book that for some has defined their very existence. Is that literal? You have quoted from the Nazarene people many times. What of their supposed theological connector - Mr. Wesley. Didn’t he, or isn’t he given credit for the phrase relating to biblical inerrancy - As far as the book points us to the golden shores of (I’ll leave the destination out because your blogs indicate the destination doesn’t exist) they are perfect.” Wouldn’t you want to substitute the word Heaven and rename that place morality? we don’t have to define morality the same way, nor define it all. However, there must be some guide, even in the UU movement, to point people to accepting the difference in people’s sexual orientation that you seem to be so enamored with. Shouldn’t there be something that points a person to making wise decisions? What is that for you? I am interested in knowing how you landed where you have without some sense of guide or directive from some sort of guidance. Did Buber have it right for you? We all have a moral oughtness…we ought to do this, or we ought to do this. Help me understand your point of view better than a person who was forced to where hot jeans that would rub your legs raw in the summer. Help me understand that where you are now is more than a response to what you were forced to encounter…and when did you realize that life is more than one man’s view of snakes, etc. as a means of whatever snakes are supposed to teach us about following Christ.

Anxiously awaiting your response.

Comment on Victims of Identity by John Brown

John Brown — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:45:08 +0000

I suppose the same protective jargon that allows you to spend moment after moment sharing your insights about your personal agenda offers the blog responder to offer a fictitious name. I must be honest on at least one front with you. The other day I witnessed 2 people of the same sex holding hands walking down the street. As if I were created with the instinct, without a second to think, I was shocked and pissed at the same time. I didn’t mean to have those thoughts…they just came to the top of my first thoughts.

By the way…in another post you used a phrase “born again UU”. What is that anyway? I know what UU is and I know what born again is; but how do they go together?

I am happy for your movement that an article in Time is bringing more attention to your new-found tradition. But, what is it that would attract someone from traditional Xnity to the UU church?

One more…I’ll wait on that one.

Comment on First Impressions of General Assembly by Richard L. Robertson

Richard L. Robertson — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:19:08 +0000

Since Hell is obviously not real - how can Florida be “as hot as” - one would then believe the climate of Florida is simply non-existent. BTW if you are in Florida you should be playing golf not going to some council thingy. Later RLR

Comment on First Impressions of General Assembly by Kara T-C

Kara T-C — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:03:47 +0000

It was great to be with the CIW. It was the most measurably successful thing with which I have been involved. Just 1 day after reaching YUM! brands, they made concessions. It was also the closest I ever came to being arrested at an action. Apparently, I was not allowed to not block the road and speak to Taco Bell customers who wanted to know from where their food comes. Well, lost the battle but won the “war.”

Comment on First Impressions of General Assembly by Bill

Bill — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:24 +0000

Its as “Hot as Hel(l)” huh? Shes “county fair cute” for a mythologically half decomposed goddess that weilds fiery wepons of torture. If you want a mythological State fair “hottie” try Vrikshaka the Indian tree nymphs. Very nice!!! Plus it rolls of the tongue a little more easily when you state that its as “Hot as a Vrikshaka!” Enjoy your stay in Florida…a.k.a “Gods waiting room”.

P.S. While you are down there go to one of the many retirement/nursing centers and hear you favorite song “I’ll fly away” which is sang every hour on the hour by the residents.

P.S. 2. Beware of the elderly who lull you into old timey stories of Red Skelton and stuff your pockets with Werthers original candies and/or Jolly Ranchers.

Take care my friend.

Comment on First Impressions of General Assembly by Andy

Andy — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:20:12 +0000

Yes, he was from Immokalee Workers. What an incredible group of people!! It must have been an amazing experience to have been with them.

Comment on First Impressions of General Assembly by Kara T-C

Kara T-C — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:35:41 +0000

Thanks for representin’ at GA. I hope you are having a good time.
Was the guy you heard from Immokalee Workers? They are far and away the best group of people I have met in my entire life. I was with them during the Taco Bell strike. I think everyone in this country should meet those people. They let me carry one bucket of tomatoes and I almost died. They do literally TONS a day.
Anyway I hope you are well and cool.
Thanks for the contact info on the speaker.
See you when you get back.

Comment on Pentecost and the Geranium Festival by Andy

Andy — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:22:21 +0000

I’ll reply, John, when you use your real name and e-mail address. I have no problem with disagreement, but please don’t use pseudonyms and fake e-mails.

Beth, thanks for the compliment. It’s great being able to get the boys together. Marcus loves it!